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IN-DEPTH FEATURES
Part Three
Handling the American Depression
YN: What kind of problems were brought to him?
Rav Shechter: I'll give you an example that actually
happened. When we students from abroad came to yeshiva, aged
seventeen or eighteen, after learning in American yeshivos,
our level was such that only with difficulty could we get
through a piece of gemora together with Rashi and easy
Tosafos, no more than that. By contrast, the level of the
scholarship in the yeshiva was at a peak. We Americans
therefore had to hire tutors from among the older
bochurim to be our first chavrusas of the
day
I learned with Reb Yonah Minsker [zt'l, Hy'd, who was
mentioned earlier], for two or three years — I can't
remember how long. For the second seder I also took a
chavrusa in exchange for payment. My father
zt'l would send me fifty American dollars a month, out
of which I paid Reb Yonah fifteen dollars and the other
chavrusa ten dollars. The remaining twenty-five
dollars was enough for me to live in Mir like a king. Over
there it was considered a vast sum.
In my third or fourth year in the yeshiva there was a severe
economic depression in America. They wrote to me from home
saying that they had to cut down on expenses and that instead
of fifty dollars I would be receiving only twenty-five. We
foreign students didn't know what to do. On the one hand we
needed to live. But on the other hand, how could we forgo our
tutors, after having gotten used to a few years' of learning
with such great people?
[We wrestled with the problem] until one of our group
proposed an idea. Until then, each of us had been paying
separately for his own tutor. From now on, we would take one
tutor for five talmidim, each of whom would contribute
five dollars. Our friends agreed to the idea —
wonderful! It was decided that I would be the [group's]
emissary to the Rosh Yeshiva, to put our plan to him.
I went in to the Rosh Yeshiva, Reb Leizer Yudel and of course
he already knew all about the depression in America. But when
he heard what I wanted to do, he immediately said, "It can't
be! What you're thinking of is impossible! Absolutely no
way!" — without explaining himself in the slightest.
I went back to my friends and told them, "Chevra, it's
not going to work. The Rosh Yeshiva said, `No way!' "
"So go to the Mashgiach," they said to me but they told me
what to say to him. "Tell the Mashgiach the whole story,"
they advised, "and tell him that you went to the Rosh Yeshiva
and that he said, `No way' and that we're therefore
considering transferring to another yeshiva. He's bound to
ask you which yeshiva, so tell him to Telz . . . "
In short, I went in to the Mashgiach and as usual whenever I
went to him, I was as pale as the whitewashed ceiling. The
Mashgiach could see that I was upset and he made a joke to
calm me down. The he said to me, "Nu, what's the
matter?"
I told him the story and I barely managed to get the threat
out, as though we were really thinking of changing yeshiva.
Of course, he asked me to which yeshiva and I told him,
"Telz!"
This was his reply. "Before you place your foot over the
threshold of Telz, you'll have to vomit out all that you've
attained here." In other words, in order to grasp the ideas
and approach over there, you'll have to empty yourself of
everything you gained here. Then, in conclusion he said that
he'd speak the matter over with the Rosh Yeshiva.
Reb Yeruchom's comments demonstrate how attached they were in
Mir to their mussar approach with its origins in Kelm,
and how wide they judged the gulf between it and the approach
of Telz.
The Mashgiach indeed spoke to Reb Leizer Yudel and together
they decided that there was room for a compromise —
they could take a tutor together but only an avreich,
not a bochur. In fact, there was only one
avreich in the yeshiva, Rav Mordechai Kovensprung, who
had married the daughter of Rav Chatzkel Levenstein
zt'l. In other words, only five bochurim could
avail themselves of this arrangement.
His reasoning was that since there were approximately a
hundred overseas bochurim in the yeshiva and they were
supporting roughly half the yeshiva, if all of them stopped
[learning with their paid chavrusas] the enormous
financial burden would fall onto the yeshiva. This way, the
five of us transferred to learning with the avreich
and all the others had to manage as before.
That was the kind of problem that the Mashgiach had to deal
with and that was how he managed to settle it.
Letter to a Father Whose Son Desired to
Learn
Another example — I had my own problem. When I left
Canada after studying in high school and in Yeshivas Rabbenu
Yitzchok Elchonon in New York I told my father that since I
had been supposed to spend four years in high school and I'd
managed to complete all the courses in three years, I had one
year's credit. My father asked me, "Nu, what do you
want to do? Take a year off?"
"No," I said, "I want to travel to Mir!" I also showed him
that for fifty dollars a month multiplied by twelve months
which is six hundred dollars, I could buy a return ticket and
support myself for an entire year. We agreed between us that
I would be there for a year.
The first year passed and I had no intention whatsoever about
writing to say I was coming home. I stayed another year,
during which my father didn't mention anything about
returning. Towards the end of the year however, he wrote to
me, "You asked for a year and I gave you two. Now it's time
to think about tachlis."
You know what tachlis means in America, don't you?
Earning a livelihood!
In short, I didn't know what to answer. In the end I
responded, "Father, you're right but I beg you for just one
more year; after that I promise that I'll come home."
At the end of the third year I received a letter that said,
"Nu, when do I send you your return ticket? You
promised . . ."
Then I went in to the Mashgiach and told him the story and
said that I didn't know what to do now. He replied, "Leave me
the letter and I'll reply to him."
And he indeed wrote to my father. At the time I didn't know
what he'd written but after a while my father wrote to me, "I
received a letter from the Mashgiach." That was all. He
didn't ask anything else of me.
When I returned home I saw the actual letter. Even though I
received a fine letter of semichoh from Reb Leizer
Yudel, I prefer this letter and its contents to all my
letters of semichoh.
At any rate, whatever the problem, in whatever area, the
Mashgiach would solve it. Boruch Hashem we didn't have
problems in the yeshiva. We were so firmly attached to the
Mashgiach. (Here Reb Shmuel intones, with evident pleasure,
the posuk's words, "And cleave to Him . . . " "And
cleave to Him!" [Devorim 10:20]).
The letter's basic message was that just as people in every
walk of life aim for perfection and try to excel, so it is
with Torah. Someone who is occupied with Torah can study and
become a scholar but he can also excel and do so in a
particular direction so that he becomes an expert in his
area. He added that it was possible that I would excel. (See
accompanying box for the full text of the letter.)
When my father received this, he agreed with it and I stayed
for a fourth year, at the end of which Reb Yeruchom passed
away. Then Reb Nosson Wachtfogel and I, who were both from
Canada, resolved together on our future paths. We were both
from Montreal. He had traveled to Mir and I followed him.
From then on we remained firmly together.
The Mashgiach was niftar on the eighteenth of Sivan.
The sheloshim ended towards the end of Tammuz. We knew
that a [new] mashgiach would definitely be arriving
for Elul and we also knew that no matter who it was, we
wouldn't be able to adjust to him for, having been attached
to one mashgiach, we wouldn't be able to received
[instruction] from another. We decided to return home and see
whether we'd find a marriage partner there. If so, we planned
on getting married and returning [to Europe,] to Kelm; if
not, we would return to Kelm and arrange a shidduch
there.
We returned to America and spent over a year there. With
Heaven's help I merited finding my partner and actually, in
the whole process, the first question was whether she would
be prepared to travel to Kelm. She was aware of what Kelm was
— that it wasn't at all like America. Boruch
Hashem, she agreed immediately.
Reb Nosson didn't find his partner there but he found her
later on in Kelm. Altogether we were in Kelm for two-and-a-
half years; we studied there under Reb Doniel and Reb Gershon
and we returned on motzei Succos 5701.
Reb Yeruchom's Magnetism
The name of Yeshivas Lomzha comes up in the course of our
conversation. I asked Rav Shmuel, "Were you ever in
Lomzha?"
"No," he replied. "While we were in Mir we didn't have the
slightest inclination to go anywhere else! We were so
attached to the learning and the shmuessen. How could
one go away for a few days and miss a shmuess of the
Mashgiach's or some of his Chumash shiurim? It never
occurred to us.
"What about during Tammuz when the Mashgiach was away? We
simply weren't curious. We were immersed in our
avodoh. We only went to Vilna to visit the Chofetz
Chaim and to see Reb Chaim Ozer, but no more. Whenever we
went to Radin we would travel via Vilna, to which Radin was
near.
"The second time I was in Radin was when we went to the
levaya of the Chofetz Chaim. He was niftar on
erev Shabbos and the levaya was held on Sunday.
Many came to participate but it wasn't on today's scale. I
reckon that about a hundred bochurim traveled from Mir
and many more came from the other yeshivos. People from
outside the yeshivos too; they came from wherever they
could.
"We traveled from Mir to Urodjay, a three-hour ride by wagon
and then a further seven hours on the train and another hour
by wagon from Lida to Radin. We left on motzei Shabbos
and arrived in the morning.
"The Mashgiach also spoke in the yeshiva in Radin after the
levaya, I think. The main point of his eulogy was that
the Chofetz Chaim had been taken away because we no longer
needed him. Had we needed him he would have remained, for the
situation is that his influence is no longer necessary. I'm
certain that the hesped was printed in one of the
seforim that his son Reb Simchah Zissel published."
YN: Was there really a special desire to see the other
gedolim?
Rav Shechter: Only the Chofetz Chaim and Reb Chaim
Ozer, no others.
Rav Shechter confirms that the overseas talmidim
traveled more, whether because of the money that they had or
because they had no way of encountering such great men back
home. I wanted to hear about this type of "pilgrimage" and I
asked, "What did you ask them for? A blessing?"
Rav Shechter: No, [we] just [wanted] to see them.
Then, the Chofetz Chaim was at home all the time. He was
already very old, [it was] about a year before his
petiroh. At Reb Chaim Ozer's, as far as I remember, we
just went in to greet him and to be greeted, not for any
particular blessing. We wanted to see how he received people.
Reb Chaim Ozer was truly something special. He was a true
leader of the entire Diaspora.
He esteemed the Mashgiach, Reb Yeruchom, very, very highly
indeed. He held him to be the godol hador of the
yeshiva world, the most influential figure, to whose
influence nothing compared. I heard that he remarked that he
had magnetism . . .? Yes, yes, he did say more than that. I
don't want to repeat exactly what he said. He held him to be
the pillar of Torah in the yeshiva world.
YN: I urged Rav Shmuel to reveal the precise wording
of Reb Chaim Ozer's comment about Reb Yeruchom but he
refused. All he would give away was that Reb Chaim Ozer held
him to be the greatest and most outstanding teacher in the
yeshiva world. Despite the fact that there were highly
influential figures in all the yeshivos, they didn't come
close to the power of the Mashgiach.
The Lomzher Mashgiach
We returned to [the subject of] Lomzha, and Rav Shmuel again
drew me into his analyses of the differences in ideas and
approaches.
"There was a great yeshiva there and the roshei
hayeshiva were gedolim but the approach of the
mashgiach Reb Moshe [Rosenstein] was not exactly that
of Kelm [although he himself was a product of Kelm].
Everything about his conduct reflected his own personal
approach. He would fast and such-like. He was a person who
had shaped himself according to his own approach, not
according to what he'd received. For this reason he was a
little unusual in the mussar world.
Rav Yechiel Michel Gordon's son-in-law was Reb Eizel Vilner!
. . . In Yeshivas Mir he was known as Eizel Vilner! He
belonged to the very top echelon of the yeshiva. There were
approximately twenty bochurim who were already then
great roshei yeshiva: Eizel Vilner, Eizel Charkover, Elya
Chazan, Reb Yonah Minsker — they literally were
greise (great) roshei yeshiva.
Reb Leib Malin was one level below them. He was in a class of
his own because of his greatness in mussar as well.
Reb Leib Malin's excellence lay in his being great in both
learning and in mussar but he was on a level below the
kind in the other group. He was younger than they! Their
excellence was principally in learning, not in
mussar.
Reb Leib had a brother called Reb Isser Malin, who was one of
the closest to Reb Yeruchom. He was especially outstanding in
mussar, while Reb Leib excelled in both together.
After the Mashgiach's shmuess there were two or three
bochurim who would repeat it; Reb Leib was one of
them.
Die Greiser Talmud Torah
YN: Who instituted all the rules and arrangements in
Kelm?
Rav Shechter: The Alter!
YN: And did they remain [in force right] up to the
end, without any changes or additions after him?
Rav Shechter: Everything remained as it was without
any change until the end.
YN: Did he give reasons for all the regulations?
Rav Shechter: There's a reason for everything. He was
an educator — the educator of the generation and he had
a certain philosophy in everything. Among the special points
about Kelm, the cleaning arrangements are cited, for
example.
The custom in Kelm was that we would do the cleaning
ourselves. The floor was cleaned twice a week and they would
also clean the benches and tables with rags. Once was on
erev Shabbos — that was a more thorough
cleaning. It was done in the time between the sedorim,
according to a rota that included everyone, two
bochurim at a time.
Before our time, the privilege of cleaning would be purchased
and I think that it used to be sold on Simchas Torah for the
entire year. In general, in Kelm they took great care over
the place being tidy and clean.
YN: From where did Reb Doniel arrive in Kelm?
Rav Shechter: He was in Slobodka with Reb Aharon
Kotler. They were the two prodigies of Slobodka in those
days. They were very young — thirteen or fourteen years
old — but they were the prodigies. When others had
difficulties with a sugya they would come over to them
and they would solve all the problems. He [Reb Doniel]
arrived in Kelm when he was very young, because his father
was a prime disciple of the Alter. He came to Kelm towards
the end of Rav Hirsch's era.
Kelm was another world entirely. One could employ common
terms to draw comparisons between other places — here
it was better, or more comfortable, or more profound. But
Kelm was in a completely different category. A different
world, it was a world of its own. All the yeshivos recognized
this.
YN: In what ways?
Rav Shechter: In every way. Some of them I've already
mentioned and in other ways too. Kelm was known in the other
yeshivos as Die greise Talmud Torah (the Great
Talmud Torah School) in admiration and esteem. There was
a Talmud Torah for children and there was Die greise
Talmud Torah, to distinguish it, or it would be called
Beis Hatalmud.
A Thought-Out Sigh
YN: How did they handle all the rules, such as the one
that it was forbidden to look out of the window?
Rav Shechter: (Correcting and clarifying) It wasn't
forbidden. It wasn't forbidden. It was all a matter of
training. One didn't turn one's head without forethought. It
wasn't forbidden. The training was such that everything one
did had to be the product of thought. When I stood in front
of Reb Doniel I never turned around. [But] not because it was
forbidden! Everything was built on Orchos Chaim
Lehorosh. The whole idea of curiosity [for its own sake]
didn't exist in Kelm.
See the Rosh's words in sentence #108: "Don't burn with
curiosity to know . . ." In my sefer I explain this to
mean that you will be told all that you need to know.
And "what is concealed from you," you have no need to know.
We find that Yaakov Ovinu did not know what was happening to
Yosef and although Yitzchok knew he did not reveal it to him
because if Heaven was not telling him, he didn't need to
know.
YN: It is said in Rav Chatzkel Levenstein's name that
in Kelm they were even careful about sighing and weighed
whether or not an individual was truly on a level to sigh . .
.
Rav Shechter: No, no! A sigh is usually not the
product of thought. If one feels that one needs to sigh then
it's okay to do so — if it's necessary. The main thing
is that it has to be the result of thought.
Reb Chatzkel belonged to a later period, not the period of
the Mashgiach. But Reb Chazkel was with Reb Hirsch. He came
to Kelm through Reb Yeruchom. Reb Yeruchom was the
mashgiach in Radin — for three years I think
— and Reb Chatzkel was then learning in Radin with the
Chofetz Chaim. He became close to the Mashgiach and when he
saw that Reb Chatzkel had the power to influence others he
sent him to Kelm, to Rav Hirsch.
Do you know what Rav Hirsch said about the Alter of Kelm? The
Alter was niftar on erev Tisha B'Av and was buried on
the same day. Rav Hirsch was the only one who eulogized him
and time was very short indeed. He said, "We will be able to
tell our offspring that we saw a `man'!"
The Mashgiach, zt'l used to mention that one of the
gentiles' great scholars propounds a theory that men are
descended from monkeys. He asked how one could possibly
maintain that a person — "man in his glory"
(Tehillim 49:21) — comes from a monkey. Monkeys
might perhaps be descended from men but the opposite —
that men are descended from monkeys — is impossible.
How did it occur to him to say such a thing? Because he never
saw a man. Had he ever seen genuine people, he wouldn't have
said it.
It's known that the three greatest among Reb Yisroel's
talmidim were Reb Itzele Peterburger, Reb Naftoli
Amsterdam and the Alter of Kelm. He applied the posuk,
"You are completely beautiful, my companion and there is no
blemish in you" (Shir Hashirim 4:7) to them, pointing
as he said the last words, "and there is no blemish in you"
to the Alter of Kelm.
In Conclusion
This seems to be a fitting idea with which to conclude the
final lines of my conversation with the tzaddik, HaRav
Shmuel Shechter, zt'l. While sitting in his room in
Yerushalayim, it felt as though we might be in the Kelm
Talmud Torah or in the quarters of the Mirrer
mashgiach.
Mir and Kelm found a home in the heart of this great and
exalted man who was a true reflection of their teachings and
approach — "You are completely beautiful, my companion
and there is no blemish in you."
A personal recollection. It was the second night of Rosh
Hashonoh, 5761. After the meal we felt like taking a short
walk — the first time we'd ever done so on this special
night. After walking a few hundred meters along the virtually
deserted streets we found ourselves going in the direction of
Yerushalayim's Rechov Shamgar where the Beis Levayos
of the main chevra kadisha is located. We noticed a
funeral just starting to leave.
It was an unusual sight for a Yom Tov night, Yom
Hadin. It was a small funeral; there were only a handful
of participants. While I was trying to take it in and to
identify the deceased based on who was there, my friend Rabbi
Eliyahu Dunner approached me and told me, "Grandfather, Reb
Shmuel passed away. You were fortunate to have known him well
and have memories of him. See how Hashgochoh brought
you here precisely at this moment!"
But that was hardly all. The niftar had left strict
and unusual instructions thirty years earlier: "My passing
should not be publicized through any announcement or poster
or by any other method." How could such a drastic request be
honored without causing pain to friends and acquaintances?
Ultimately, Heaven honored the tzaddik's wishes by
arranging for his burial on the only day in the year when a
funeral can take place in Eretz Yisroel without there
being any possibility of it being publicized "through any
announcement or poster or by any other method."
Rav Shmuel Shechter was indeed a tzaddik and a great
man, who attained wondrous heights as a result of leaving his
birthplace, Leshin, near Montreal, Canada for Yeshivas Mir in
Poland. He learned there, far from his home and family, for
four years and only when his mentor Reb Yeruchom was
niftar did he return home to marry and then travel
back, this time to Kelm.
In America he was introduced to a daughter of the
distinguished Gordon family, all of whose sons went to learn
in the Torah centers of Mir and Kamenitz. The first question,
upon which the match depended, was whether the young lady
would agree to spend several years in Kelm; the answer was in
the affirmative.
As a sincere yirei Shomayim, Rav Shechter established
a precedent with his American wedding, which he insisted
should conform with yeshivishe standards, though it
was held in the city of Jamaica in Queens, far from even the
relatively religious center of New York. He absolutely ruled
out a proposal to hold the wedding in Mir or in Kelm.
On his return to Europe immediately after his wedding, he
stopped over briefly in Slobodka and the roshei yeshiva there
had a chance to make his acquaintance. The Mashgiach, HaRav
Avrohom Grodzensky, urged him to stay and learn in Slobodka
and the rosh yeshiva, HaRav Isaac Sher, excitedly introduced
their visitor to his rebbetzin as, "A baal
mussar from a bygone era! (Ehr iz einer fun die
amolikeh mussarniks!)"
In Kelm, Rav Shechter and his childhood friend Rav Nosson
Wachtfogel, who later became mashgiach of Lakewood
Yeshiva, attached themselves to Rav Doniel Mowshowitz,
becoming Kelm talmidim in every sense. He felt the
link between Mir and Kelm to be a natural one, which hinged
on the personality of the Mirrer Mashgiach Reb Yeruchom, who
himself was a product of Kelm.
Wherever he went in later life, Rav Shechter brought some of
the authentic atmosphere of Kelm with him. He served Hashem
with a fiery zeal — but at the same time, in
concealment and with humility. He taught Torah and
mussar for over fifty years, both to groups that were
close to observance and those that were not, to Bais Yaakov
students and bnei yeshiva in New York and Monsey, in
Yerushalayim and Haifa. In his presence one could sense the
sublime yet subtle spirit of Kelm hovering in the air.
Ten years have now passed since our main meeting, which took
place at the beginning of Av, shortly before the day that is
commemorated as the memorial day for the martyrs of Kelm who
were murdered in the Holocaust. The tension in the atmosphere
was palpable.
Rav Shmuel referred me to the introduction of his
sefer on Orchos Chaim Lehorosh and, in a
quavering voice, began reading the horrifying eyewitness
account of Reb Doniel's martyrdom:
"When the Jews of Kelm were standing by the pits, opposite
the barrels of the machine guns, Reb Doniel Mowshowitz asked
the German in charge to allow him to say a few words to his
flock. The German allowed him to do so briefly. Calmly and
peacefully, as though he was lecturing his talmidim in
ordinary times, the rov started to speak about sanctifying
Hashem's Name. When his talk went on the German yelled at him
to finish.
"Then he turned to the Jews standing at the pits' edge and
said, `Here we are now in the situation that I spoke about a
moment ago, meaning, kiddush Hashem. Therefore, don't
panic; we must accept the decree calmly.'
"To the German Reb Doniel said, `I have finished — you
can begin.' "
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