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IN-DEPTH FEATURES
Ever since I met him, I had been urging HaRav Shechter to
find the time for us to have a full discussion of the prewar
Torah centers that he encountered and of which he was a part.
Yet several years passed before the day finally arrived
— in Av 5755 — five years before his
petiroh, on the first day of Rosh Hashonoh 5760.
I first heard about Reb Shmuel from his fellow Mirrer, HaRav
Menachem Manes Moore zt'l of Gateshead, who warmly
recommended that I meet him while there was still time. They
had escaped from Lithuania together, traveling through Russia
and on to Australia, and they later took part in the
establishment of the first kollel in America. Another
member of their circle was HaRav Shechter's closest friend
throughout his life, the gaon and tzaddik HaRav
Nosson Wachtfogel zt'l Mashgiach of Lakewood
Yeshiva.
I asked Reb Shmuel to tell me about his own "exile" from his
home in Montreal, Canada, to the mekomos haTorah in
Eastern Europe — in particular Mir and Kelm —
which etched themselves so deeply into his soul. Their
standards of Torah and mussar, their greatness and
elevation of spirit, were discernible in him until the very
end of his life. He was a talmid, in every sense, of
both Mir and Kelm — and remained so all his life. He
was a great man who succeeded in capturing the essence of
both places and holding onto it.
Reb Shmuel saved me a lot of work. I didn't have to probe him
or prod him to speak. A veteran educator, with a wealth of
experience in expressing his ideas to Bais Yaakov students in
New York, to young people in Eretz Yisroel and to his
followers among the bnei yeshiva of Yerushalayim, he
was well-prepared for our meeting. He began it with a
fascinating and flowing account that was like one of his
master lessons, relevant, orderly and well designed.
In the course of his talk, something of his extraordinary
personality was revealed. It was clear that he stood on a
higher level than others and was an exceptional yireh
Shomayim. His ideas were crystal clear and his views
firm, befitting a thinker endowed with a highly developed
intuition. Reb Shmuel used to say of himself that he was
"a gutteh shmecker (a good sniffer)."
Who could be more reliable and capable of faithfully
conveying the ideas of Kelm and the atmosphere of the Torah
empire of Mir? I have therefore tried to minimize my editing,
to preserve the authentic flavor of Reb Shmuel's account, as
far as possible.
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In my humble opinion [Reb Shmuel began, when I showed him my
book Avi Hayeshivos], there is a strong connection
between Rav Chaim of Volozhin zt'l and the Alter of
Kelm zt'l. Reb Chaim founded Volozhin Yeshiva which
was the prototype for all the yeshivos that came after it.
After Volozhin was closed, the yeshivos of Telz, Grodno,
Kamenitz, Baranovitch and, last but not least, Mir, were
founded. All of them were patterned on the example of
Volozhin.
From the photograph, one could even think that the building
of the Volozhin Yeshiva is the same as that of Mir. The
difference between them is that in Mir there was no cellar
beneath the building. The actual buildings themselves though,
were of the same design.
There was something special in the way the Mirrer yeshiva
building was built that enabled it to manage without any
supporting beams or pillars along its entire length. The Rosh
Yeshiva, Reb Leizer Yudel [Finkel] zt'l, put great
effort into having it done that way so that the Mashgiach
would be able to look out from his room, which was on the
upper floor, and see the entire yeshiva, taking in all the
bochurim in one glance and seeing how they were
sitting and learning.
From Volozhin to Kelm
Rav Shechter: An important difference between Volozhin
and the yeshivos that came after it resulted from the
different periods. In Volozhin they learned all of
Shas, right through, starting from Brochos and
ending with Niddah. In the yeshiva world that
followed, only what are known as "the yeshivishe
masechtos" — eight masechtos from
Noshim and Nezikin — were learned. In
subsequent generations people were capable of less and if
they had gone through Shas, they would not have
managed to make the bochurim into scholars.
Four years were spent on those masechtos that were
learned, with half-a-year being devoted to each
masechta. Usually, the first part of the
masechta was learned during the first seder of
the day, and the other part during the second seder.
Over four years all the masechtos were thus covered
and the bochurim developed into scholars.
Once a bochur had attained that level of proficiency
he was capable of learning all of Shas, but first he
had to become a scholar. With a program to cover all of
Shas that wouldn't have happened, it's obvious. That
was one difference.
Another difference between Volozhin and the yeshivos that
came after it was that they didn't learn mussar in
Volozhin, meaning that mussar study wasn't part of the
yeshiva's daily schedule as it is in other yeshivos, where it
is learned for half an hour before ma'ariv.
They didn't learn mussar in Volozhin for the simple
reason that their knowledge of Shas was so profound
that gemora was enough for them and they didn't need
mussar. Reb Chaim actually preferred that they didn't
learn mussar. "Householders need to learn
mussar," he said, but for bnei Torah, knowledge
of Shas in its entirety and superior abilities were
sufficient to ensure that "the beginning of wisdom is the
fear of Hashem" would result just from studying
Shas.
There was [also] another difference that led to this. Take
[Rav Chaim of Volozhin's sefer] Nefesh HaChaim
— much of it is Kabboloh, it's obvious. One
sees the same thing in his [commentary to] Pirkei Ovos,
Ruach Chaim — a large part of it is
Kabboloh. In other words, where we learn mussar
they learned Kabboloh. The Kabboloh that they
learned sufficed for them, like mussar suffices us. On
a high level of knowledge of Kabboloh, or with at
least some proficiency in learning it, one doesn't need
mussar to such an extent.
Although we consider Mesillas Yeshorim as being the
most fundamental mussar work and no other sefer
is its equal — in Mir, I remember, there were only two
mussar works: Mesillas Yeshorim and Rabbenu
Yonah's Shaarei Teshuvoh — in Kelm there was one
more besides those two. There was Chovos Halevovos as
well.
But we don't find any Kabboloh in mussar. In
Mesillas Yeshorim for example, even though Rabbenu
Moshe Chaim Luzatto was, I think, the greatest scholar of
Kabboloh in his generation, with no equal, it still
doesn't contain a single line of Kabboloh. Scholars of
Kabboloh view it as the book but it isn't
Kabboloh and they needed some means of passage from
Kabboloh to mussar.
So the training that mussar provided in the yeshivos
— Kabboloh filled that function in Volozhin.
After that they needed some way of transferring [from one to
the other] and this transfer was effected very successfully
in all the yeshivos with the exception of Telz. There, there
was a problem, and when Reb Yosef Leib [Bloch] wanted to
bring in a mashgiach there was opposition, as you
know. Telz apart though, there were no problems of differing
outlooks or the like — not in Slobodka, nor in
Kamenitz, Kletsk or Baranovitch — on account of the
mashgichim being guides and mentors.
There were other problems in Volozhin, besides the terrible
decree that resulted from the government's demand that they
include secular studies that closed the yeshiva. When you ask
someone why Volozhin closed, he replies, "Because of the
government." In other words, because of Funye, whose
ministers acceded to the demands of the maskilim that
secular subjects be studied in the yeshiva. That is correct
but the truth is that there were other problems, as is known.
There were mashgichim in Volozhin too, but their job
was [merely] to supervise the conduct of the bochurim
[not to train them].
In Mir on the other hand, and in the other yeshivos too, the
mashgiach conveyed Torah outlook on such a [forceful]
level that we mocked the outside world and the
maskilim. Thanks to the level of the Torah
hashkofoh that the mashgiach conveyed, every
aspect of the [students'] conduct was [modified] accordingly.
All the great mashgichim of the yeshivos were Kelm
alumni, who had learned either under the Alter or under Reb
Hirsch [Broide, zt'l, the Alter's son-in- law] in the
subsequent period and also under Reb Nochum Wolf [Ziv,
zt'l, the Alter's son].
In Mir, Torah Reigns Supreme
In this respect, Volozhin's offshoots surpassed her, thanks
to the Alter's talmidim, the mashgichim. I
remember that in Mir, Torah was supreme and nothing outside
was of any relevance. Even Mizrachi, who apparently were
ehrlicher Yidden, as far as I remember, in a yeshiva
of five hundred bochurim — five hundred,
literally! — there were maybe two or three who
identified with Mizrachi.
Once, before my arrival in Mir in 5692 (1932), there were
some Mirrer householders who belonged to the Mizrachi and
they met for a special meeting. They asked one of the
bochurim, a talmid of Baranovitch who was a
very gifted speaker, to address them on Shabbos and he spoke.
When the Mashgiach found out, he spoke about it in the
yeshiva and said that over something like this he was
prepared to close the yeshiva. A yeshiva bochur
doesn't speak about Mizrachi, because in yeshiva, Mizrachi is
irrelevant.
And I'll tell you something else. Even Agudah was irrelevant
in the yeshiva. During the four years that I learned there I
didn't hear any Agudah affairs discussed. I only heard that
such a thing existed. For in yeshiva the learning was so
powerful that Torah ruled everything. It simply wasn't
possible for Agudah to have a place in that scheme of
things.
Only later when bochurim married and took up
rabbinical positions or became important householders in
their communities and needed an organizational framework
— only then did they establish Agudah branches. They
made use of its organization within which, in fact, the most
outstanding bnei Torah were brought together.
In Mizrachi on the other hand, there were no bnei
Torah. What did they have? The yeshiva [of Rav Reines] in
Lidda, which was not considered a success. It wasn't in the
same league as the other yeshivos at all.
I, at any rate, feel that the transition from Volozhin to the
yeshivos that followed it and were its continuation, was
carried out by the Alter of Kelm, which essentially means by
Rav Yisroel [Salanter]. Rav Yisroel, however, wanted to
implement the mussar program for householders as well,
and he opened mussar rooms everywhere for householders
to come and study mussar. But he wasn't successful in
that. The mussar rooms remained the province of the
bnei Torah. Householders there were, but they were
bnei Torah at the same time, not ordinary
householders.
As far as the yeshivos were concerned though, I think that
the Alter of Kelm made the transition through his
talmidim who were in all the yeshivos gedolos.
Mir had Reb Yeruchom, who was a talmid of the Alter of
Kelm. And what Mir was in its heyday, Slobodka also was, in
its day [fifteen to twenty years earlier]; the Alter
of Slobodka was also a talmid of the Alter of Kelm.
YN: But what about the well-known incident when the
Alter of Kelm didn't want to receive the Alter of
Slobodka?
Rav Shechter: Just a moment and I'll tell you.
The Alter of Kelm opened a yeshiva in Grobin, a yeshiva
ketanoh, for boys aged between twelve and seventeen. It
was an excellent yeshiva and, by the way, there was between
an hour and an hour-and-a-half of secular studies each day.
Rav Yisroel said that only the Alter of Kelm was capable of
doing such a thing, though he never gave it his seal of
approval because nobody else would be capable of running the
secular studies while maintaining the yeshiva on its level of
holy of holies.
The Alter had several tutors and maggidei shiur. The
Alter of Slobodka was one of them for a number of years,
during which time he was the talmid of the Alter of
Kelm. Afterwards, when he left and opened the yeshiva in
Slobodka, he wanted to return to Kelm and the Alter did not
accept him. He told him: Since you've already struck out with
a new approach I can't accept you.
Kelm, Slobodka and Telz and their
Differences
The same thing happened to Rav Yosef Leib Bloch. You know
that he was originally a talmid of the Alter of Kelm.
Eventually he went to serve in Telz after he married the
daughter of the gaon Rav Eliezer Gordon, the Telzer
Rov and Rosh Yeshiva. When he afterwards wanted to return to
Kelm, the Alter told him, "I'm not taking you; you've already
struck out with your own approach and it's not Kelm."
The Slobodka approach and the Telzer approach [also] differed
from each other. Slobodka's approach was also mussar-
based but it stressed one particular aspect. Both these
aspects of mussar were based on the pesukim,
"What is man that You should mention him . . .[yet] You have
made him just short of the angels . . ." (Tehillim 8:5-
6).
The first approach says that man is inconsequential. The
student of mussar needs to bear in mind [the
mishnah's observation,] "What was your origin? A putrid
drop" (Ovos 3:1). In other words, you started as a
putrid drop and that is what you still are.
People make a mistake in understanding this statement and
can't understand how it prevents a person from feeling proud.
It seems to encourage quite the reverse. Why, from such
humble origins he's now become a great man, a Shas
Yid! Surely he's entitled to feel very proud of
himself.
But that isn't what the mishnah means. Its message is
that you are a putrid drop right now, as well. You still
carry around your ignoble origins.
The second mussar approach stresses, "You have made
him just short of the angels."
The only question is, which is the main message? Is it the
first part, "What is man?" or the second, "Just short of the
angels"?
This was the difference between Kelm and Slobodka. In
Slobodka they spoke virtually exclusively about "just short
of the angels," while in Kelm, though they mentioned that as
well, priority was given to, "What is man?" and "What was
your origin? A putrid drop."
In other words, the only difference between Kelm and Slobodka
was which aspect was given priority. In Telz however, the
entire approach was different, not just the stress. In Telz,
primacy was given to reasoning. That was the method of study
that was applied to every branch of learning —
reasoning. I'll give you an example.
Halochoh requires that there be two witnesses to the
contracting of a marriage or divorce in order to effect the
actual change in status. This is in contrast to monetary
transactions, where witnesses are only necessary in order to
furnish proof.
How was this explained in Telz? It was said there that when a
person carries out a procedure in the absence of witnesses,
he doesn't give it his full attention or reflection. When he
appoints witnesses to stand and watch what he's doing though,
he acts with full responsibility.
That is pure reasoning! There's no way that Reb Chaim Brisker
wouldn't have stood for such an idea! The validity of a
marriage or a divorce is conditional upon the presence of two
witnesses [simply] because that is what the Torah says [in
the approach of other yeshivas]. It is learned from
pesukim — without witnesses, nothing takes
effect.
I have a fine story on this point, about the difference
between Telz and Mir. It's not for now but remind me to tell
it to you! At any rate, in Mir the mashgiach was one
of the foremost products of Kelm and the Kelm mussar
approach was similar to Reb Chaim's approach to learning.
The Mashgiach, Reb Yeruchom
I'll tell you one story briefly. Reb Yeruchom refrained
completely from speaking outside the yeshiva. He was very
insistent about this.
Once there was a meeting of all the Tiferes Bochurim
groups from the surrounding towns. Most of the group leaders
were talmidim of the Mashgiach, from their yeshiva
days. The general meeting was held in Baranovitch and the
organizers asked him to make an exception and to come to
speak because they were his talmidim. He agreed.
He spoke for an hour-and-a-half or two hours, as he used to
do in yeshiva. In Baranovitch lived one of Reb Chaim
Brisker's foremost talmidim. He was one of the town's
great men. When he heard that the Mashgiach was coming, he
went to listen to him. Some bnei Torah went over to
him after the shmuess and asked him — as a
talmid of Reb Chaim — what he thought. I don't
remember what his name was.
His response was, "I closed my eyes while he was speaking and
for an hour-and-a-half or two I listened to everything he
said. It seemed to me that my Rebbi was speaking
here." That was what he said.
Everyone knows that the Mashgiach never delivered
shiurim — neither about tzvei dinim nor
drei dinim [classical analytical tools in
gemora associated with Reb Chaim's approach]. And Reb
Chaim never gave a mussar shmuess. He meant, then,
that their thought processes were similar.
The way people thought in Mir was totally different from how
they thought in Telz. Even Reb Shimon Shkop zt'l, who
engages in reasoning to a considerable degree, can't be
compared to Reb Yosef Leib of Telz. There was still a bridge
connecting Reb Shimon with Mir, Kamenitz and other
yeshivos.
The Mirrer Melamed
Mir took in the cream of the yeshivos; after learning in
other yeshivos for several years, the best made their way to
Mir. The rebbi, the Mirrer melamed was the
Mashgiach! Even though Reb Leizer Yudel was one of the
greatest of the roshei yeshivos, he recognized the
Mashgiach's power and he placed all of the yeshiva's internal
affairs into his hands.
Reb Leizer Yudel bore the burden of supporting the yeshiva on
his own, while giving the internal affairs of the entire
yeshiva over to Reb Yeruchom. Only Reb Leizer Yudel, in his
greatness, could have done such a thing. The Mashgiach was in
charge of everything in the yeshiva and even bochurim
who were great men in their own right accepted his
authority.
When Reb Yonah Minsker ztvk'l [author of Yonas
Ileim] delivered a chaburah in the yeshiva —
he was one of the foremost bochurim there —
there were three or four hundred bochurim standing to
hear him. That was more than took part in the Rosh Yeshiva's
shiur.
There were bochurim in Mir who were great Torah
scholars, [who] literally [could have served as] great roshei
yeshiva. All they lacked were beards and wives who were
daughters of roshei yeshiva. In other words, all they needed
in order to be called Rosh Yeshiva were beards and yeshivos
[of their own].
And these very men would stand before the Mashgiach like
servants in front of their master. I remember how they would
stand in front of him, in fear and awe.
Yes, that's how they stood before him and that's how they
stood before the Alter of Kelm. It's also how they stood
later before Reb Doniel [Mowshovitz zt'l, Hy'd] even
though he didn't adopt the conduct of a mashgiach. He
wanted to behave like an ordinary person. But when they stood
in front of him they stood in awe, quaking and trembling.
The linchpin of this entire transition was the Alter of Kelm.
The pillars supporting all the Lithuanian yeshivos were the
Alter's talmidim. He was the one who created the
transition that I mentioned earlier from Volozhin to the
yeshivos that came later.
"And besides everything else," adds Rav Shechter, "all the
traditions came from the Vilna Gaon and the whole way in
which the yeshivos were administrated came from the Gaon. The
Gaon was the rebbi of all the yeshivos and the father
of them all."
End of Part I
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